Wednesday, January 25, 2006

hustle and flizow

saw an awesome movie yesterday. woody bought it at best buy because he thought it would be good, he and ed were going to rent it on saturday but there werent any left. we watched it and i am telling you, worth the money to buy it. now, for those of you that are really into movies, take that with a grain of salt (whatever that means), as this is coming from a girl that also loved mandy moore in chasing liberty . also, it is pretty ghetto (also just an opinion, as i have not lived in the ghetto), which is a major selling point of the film. so, in summary: great movie, worth the cash, hardcore ghetto, also like mandy.

i am not really sure what it is that makes me pick this pic, but i love it.


Uncle Skip said...

So! You showed your dad how to create a blog... now show him how to maintain it.
Enjoyed your comments about the movie. It seems that Aunt Sharon and I only enjoy movies vicariously through others' experiences. Niles gave us seven videos several years ago and we've only managed to view three of them so far. We've got the Lord of the Rings, yep, all three with the outtakes and side stories... so far only one of them has even been opened and that was by someone else.
Maybe we should unretire so that we have more time for leisure?

blaterer said...

This is my second time trying to post a comment :(

I'd really wanted to see Hustle and Flow when it came out, I'm glad you got to, and that you liked it! I really liked Terrence Howard in Crash (one of the best movies EVER!) and after seeing him on Oprah with the rest of the cast, and listening to some of what he had to go through growing up, I'm really a big fan :)

One thing though... and this is just one of my little quirks... I really hate the word "ghetto." To me, it's almost derogatory... what exactly are you (not you specifically, but folks in general) trying to say when you call something ghetto?

timidvenus said...

skip- yeah, hes not too good about it, he says its because he dosnt go online that much, but i think he will come around.

b- it is weird you comment about the word ghetto, as it took me quite a while to pick that one. i am not sure what folks in general think they mean when they use the word ghetto, but when i used it i was struggling with using the word gangster, because it is not a gangster movie (by this i mean that it isnt a movie about gang members, not the al pachino gangsters). when i wrote ghetto, i was trying to say that it takes place in what i imagine one to be and things go on in ot that i imagine go on in one. so, i guess i dont really know what i mean, but i didnt mean to be offensive, or, even worse, ignorant.

Anonymous said...

What is wrong with the word "GHETTO"? I take it you will be taking up Law for the NAACP?

edluv said...

see, i don't really like ghetto as a term because i think it's overused. and generally by people that don't really have a good concept of what it's like in the ghetto.

(it seems like i'm talking about you, but i'm not sara)

Anonymous said...

so if you have never lived somewhere, done something, or peronally owned something you can not comment on it? I don't get it? ghetto is ghetto and the hood is the hood

edluv said...

no. obviously, people can comment on things they've never done or places they've never been. sometimes with great accuracy. but, i think this term has become overused in some segments of society. furthermore, i feel that the term is often used as a stereotype by people who don't know what it's like to live in a ghetto.

JP120 said...

Webster's dictionary defines "ghetto" as a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure. I haven't seen Hustle and Flow but I read the premise and I feel Sara's justified in using the word ghetto.

I agree with blaterer, CRASH was one of the best movies I seen. If you haven't seen this Sara, I highly recommend it.

edluv said...

ooh, the dictionary definition. does it go into the current slang usage? i'm pretty sure sara was using the term in that fashion. i don't think she was using it to reference, say, the Jewish ghettos in Germany during the WW2 era, although such a comparison could yeild interesting insight to the understanding of black americans, and thus hustle & flow.

let us step back a moment. sara, do you care to elaborate on how you understand the term ghetto, as used in your initial post?

Anonymous said...

well this honest to "god" from the URBAN DICTIONARY provided from the Firefox web browser...

word which rich white girls use to describe almost everything thats not clad with lilly polos and pearls.

timidvenus said...

when i used the word ghetto, i thought it would be better than the word 'hood', which (correct me if i am worng) might work well here too, but i felt that ghetto was more correct in describing the feel of the movie. it was a hard place, one that djay (the character) was stuck in, and that he wanted out of. i was trying to say that it seemed real and hard and full of things that many couldnt imagine being a part of, namely being pimped (which i think is a bit ironic sinse the hero is a pimp). i am lucky enough to have watched the endless extras at the end of the movie, which made me think more deeply about the point of the whole film.
this is a quote from craig brewer, the writer-director of the film who had a mid-life crisis when his dad died at 49(?) and he realized that it could be over any day for himself as well, and what is he going to do to make his life matter?:
“At the same time, I was location scouting in Memphis for another movie and this hustler rolled up on me. He was trying to sell me his woman, and his mumble, his hustle, his spin, was unrelenting – he even tried to sell me his car. He just would not let me go. So I just put the two together – I thought, ‘Man, if that guy had the same mid-life crisis that I had, and suddenly he started thinking about making something creative, what kind of story would that be?’ It seemed to me that his creative outlet would be music – in Memphis, that means hip-hop, crunk – and his hustle would translate into his flow.”

is that any more clear?

also, i watched it again last night, and, while i dont want to overuse a word, be offensive, or anything, i think i picked the right word. i think that the creators of the movie would think i had as well.

timidvenus said...

and this just in from woody:

if you want to know about the ghetto, refrence too short. he says it is just like the movie.

also, what is a lilly polo???

edluv said...

no, i understand the term well enough. i know what i mean if were to say it. and, i think your explaination, as well as the one from the urban dictionary, explain my point tremendously. that is, it's frequently used by/in the context of the urban dictionary style, rather than the more realistic definition (which you're using here). and, it's the mindset of the urb.dict. definition that bothers me.

i do think the creators of that film wished to accurately portray the life in the ghetto. so, it's probably fine for you to use the term to describe it. interestingly, elvis did (at least covered) the song, "in the ghetto". too short did a remake of said song, using another, probably original sample.

i'm guessing a lilly polo is a white polo shirt.